I’m very curious as to whether Seth ever described in detail his concept of time. I understand that to us all time is simultaneous, but I’m sure I remember Seth saying that he does have some kind of a concept of time.
I ask this because I’m reading Seth Speaks again. It’s been several years since I read it last and thought it was time to revisit the material. Part 2 of the book deals with what happens to us after death. I’m finding the material quite absorbing. In it, Seth makes a lot of references to time.
After death “there is an in-between stage of relative indecision, a midplane of existence; a rest area….”
“It is a time of study and comprehension….”
“Some personalities DO reincarnate before they are advised to” (‘Before’ implying some kind of time.)
“There is no time schedule, and yet it is very unusual for an individual to wait for anything over three centuries between lives, for this makes the orientation very difficult.”
“This is a time, then of many projections….”
The time of choosing may happen almost immediately, in your terms, or it may be put off for a much longer period while training is carried on….
There are a lot more references, but it’s obvious that there is some kind of time concept in Seth’s terms. I imagine it would be very difficult for him to try to explain to us, but I was wondering if anyone remembers where and when he might have done this.
Yes he does mention his idea of time, something about a durability or a quality of ‘duration’?
But anyway, can one be sentient anywhere and not experience time? Framework Two or Framework One what does it matter, if I am there, if I am being, there is duration, there is durability of being, there is time.
When Seth withdraws to his favourite study, sits in his favourite armchair sipping his favourite brandy… there is time. Other wise he would not be able to pick up the glass, fill it and drink. All that would happen would be the simultaneous knowledge of these events, but to experience them he must ‘be’, being creates sequence, duration and time.
I think what I take from the Seth material about the simultaneous Spacious Present is that all of everything exists in ‘the now’ – and in certain other frameworks ‘the now’ is open ended and all those simultaneous events are indeed ‘now’.
But it seems to me, when I choose to experience a moment, focus within it, I lose that perspective. I am now managing moments in a linear fashion, one after the other, strung together by a narrative of some kind.
After all, if all of everything exists in the spacious present, and being there enables us to experience all of everything simultaneously – then we are done.
One way I look at it is this: Whenever you have a sequence of some kind, there can be a perception of time along that sequence. However, there is always another perspective where you don’t have to follow along the sequence in a specific order.
Think of a song on a cassette tape. You can play the song, but you can also see the whole song as the tape. (It is interesting to take the analogy further and note that in modern devices there is no need to ‘rewind’, you can skip to any part at will.)
Note, however, that your experience of the song is different from the two perspectives.
I think Seth’s main point is that our concept of time is just one of many ways to organize experiences. It is a root assumption within the physical plane, but we are not bound by it. It is a pattern we project onto our experience of the moment.
” . . . there is more to the body than you perceive of it, and this is difficult to explain to you … If you can think of a multidimensional body existing at one time in various realities, and appearing differently within each one while still being whole, then you can get some glimpse of what is involved.”
The “Unknown” Reality Volume 2 Appendix 21: (For Session 721)
“Now: Each of your reincarnational selves is born as a creature in flesh, like you. Each one has its own “points of power,” or successive moments in which it also materializes daily existence in a linear manner from all the probabilities available to it.
“(See the 653rd session in Chapter Thirteen.) So through your current beliefs you can, in your own space and time, attract tendencies toward certain experiences shared by these others. There is a constant interaction in this multidimensional point of power, therefore, so that in your terms one incarnated self draws from all of the others what abilities it wants, according to its own specific, localized beliefs.
The above is one of the most important sentences in this book in practical terms, and working within the framework of time as you understand it. As mentioned earlier (in the 653rd session in Chapter Fourteen), you actualize events from the present intersection of spirit and flesh, choosing them from probabilities according to your beliefs.”
The Nature of Personal Reality Chapter 15: Session 657, April 18, 1973